Posts by Half banana

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Doing away with Calculating How Close we are to THE END

by FusionTheism in

the watchtower study edition, august 2015, "keep in expectation!

" article:.

paragraph 3: "after looking forward to the end of this system for what may seem to be a long time, however, some may wonder, do we still have sound reasons to keep in expectation?

Half banana

It wouldn’t be so bad if the Bible was God’s word. But the Bible is a flawed and mainly Roman Catholic fraud.

It wouldn’t be so bad if Jesus was actually God’s son. But he was the Jewish name given to an old saviour myth with cult appeal to both Jews and non-Jews.

It wouldn’t be so bad if there truly was an end to the worst things in the world... and although science and technology have greatly improved our lives, for the moment there is no hope of immortality or world peace. We just have to appreciate what we have and make the best of our short life on a beautiful planet.

In the mean time, doomsday cults fleece their flock on the basis of a never arriving dream of a never coming kingdom...the poor and uneducated devoting their lives to a confidence trick... just like early Jesus cults did nearly two thousand years ago.

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Bro Loesch's talk.

by New day in

recently i heard through video link to our kh a talk by bro loesch where he attacked university study (again) but this time he prefaced his remarks by saying, and i quote, "the faithful slave does not forbid you to go to university.

" so this was a bad start as his following remarks made it clear that this was just a way of seeming reasonable while basically saying that we shouldn't do it.

he went on to use an illustration i think he has used before about a man with ocd who decided to kill himself.

Half banana

Quite right Heaven, there is nothing as lethal to Watchtower dogma as critical thinking... which is the bread and butter of university study.

It is hardly surprising that the GB don’t want their flock to get an education. Cult religion is the preserve of the poor and uneducated.

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Is Prophecy important?

by EA916 in

hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

Half banana

Prophecy as sold by modern religion has the lure of magic. Prophecy was intended for the illiterate. Prophecy was the tool in trade of soothsayers to give the ignorant a thing to marvel at but like the JW cult, it is just guesswork since nobody can predict the future and nobody ever did.

In other words it is a complete waste of time.

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I left the troof behind in 2006. What have I missed?

by Jehovah lol in

i'm up to date with what the wt taught in 2006 but have no idea what has changed since.. do tell..

Half banana

For the sake of absolute clarity:

The true FDS class are now going to be ruptured before the other anointed get their way. The generation of 1914 have been already overcrapped by those who came later and Armageddon will definitely arrive, immediately afterwards, like within 150 years (unless that is not convenient). So the faithful will get the reward of perpetual servitude under the GB so long as they answer up at the Watchtower study which now forbids any personal opinions or insights. All that is required to be a JW is to be able to read and praise the GB... but thinking is no longer permitted. Anyone with private thoughts at odds with the newly divine Governing Body is taken out to have their brains removed by the Bethel doctor. It is now compulsory to be permanently in debt to the JW org as a statement of worship. Everything is now “new light” since everything was wrong before but we must all thank and pray to the Governing Body since the new light seems to be coming out from their trousers.

I hope this explains the recent changes in the org.

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Why God is an untenable concept

by Half banana in

around three thousand two hundred years ago a tiny tribe of desert pastoralists were called israelites for the first time.

by assuming this name it acknowledged, as was the custom, the name of a god el..

el was a chief sort of god and he had a fabled number of seventy sons including yahweh.

Half banana

Once we distance ourselves from the Borg many of us look for a succinct description of the great hoax we lived under and I admit I’m in that category! Fukitol, you have arrived at a pretty good one there; a ”pious fraud by a priestcraft.”

“Prologos , yes BS is most appropriate for a bovine idol...hadn’t thought of that!

James T, indeed the immense “disconnect”.

I would be most interested to hear any JW defend this indefensible chasm which exists between the partisan folk origins of Big J and the prevailing perception.

My take on the implications is that it demonstrates the nature of the Biblical texts that they are merely the religio – political adulation of their divine mascot. Israel being a tiny province with a small population (don’t believe what the Bible boasts on this point) with limited natural resources, surrounded by very powerful neighbours. Their only escape was in the hope of their puny God defeating the more powerful Gods. The power of Egypt’s Gods were feared because the empire was so strong, the Gods of the weak tribes being regarded as impotent. Yahweh was a lesser God and hence the naive god competition in 1Kings 18. (Elijah, Jah and Baal)

This did not prevent the underdogs from imagining some celestial victory in their favour and the hope beyond hope of rhetorical bluster is the basis for much of the Hebrew writings.

But to believe it today and base your very life on it... is...like Jehovah... absurd.

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Why God is an untenable concept

by Half banana in

around three thousand two hundred years ago a tiny tribe of desert pastoralists were called israelites for the first time.

by assuming this name it acknowledged, as was the custom, the name of a god el..

el was a chief sort of god and he had a fabled number of seventy sons including yahweh.

Half banana

Around three thousand two hundred years ago a tiny tribe of desert pastoralists were called Israelites for the first time. By assuming this name it acknowledged, as was the custom, the name of a god “El”.

El was a chief sort of god and he had a fabled number of seventy sons including Yahweh. Yahweh would probably have been a wooden idol and from stone reliefs of the time we know he sat with his consort Ashera and was depicted with crescent shaped horns. I suggest from the relief and other evidence that these horns were those of the extinct giant ox called aurochs. They are shown as fitted to a band which was then attached to the idol’s head. In silhouette they look like the crescent of a new moon which indicated he was a moon god. Male Moon gods are much rarer than female but were found in Egypt,the Levant and also in India.

Behold the first Jehovah an ox headed wooden idol!

The Bible makes great theatre with its story of disobedient sons of Israel casting a golden bovine Jehovah in the myth of law making after the Exodus. This never happened as far as anyone knows but is a didactic tale to reinforce the development of hating all other gods and elevating the idea of an invisible divinity. The new idea on the block is not monotheism but monolatry or henotheism; the recognition that there are other gods but the worship of only one in particular.

From this position eventually the Jewish God and his attributes, ever evolving, became adopted by the early Christ cults of the early centuries of the Common Era.

My point is this: how could it be that a local tribal cult idol becomes the almighty creator god of the universe?

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Preparing for Life in the New World

by cappytan in

jw
friends

shouldda, wouldda, couldda...but didn't.. .

Half banana

Steve, I had a similar awakening; everything in the garden was going to be lovely then I suddenly realised that it was to be forever under the thumb of a bunch of narcissist tyrant princes.That completely destroyed the dream for me.

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"I cant wait to meet Abraham!"

by stuckinarut2 in

"i can't wait to meet abraham" was the eager comment made by a young 7 year old witness girl.. when asked why, she said "because he was jehovahs friend, and he was even willing to kill his own son!".

this comment was said with joy and excitement!

she can't see the obvious issues with this?.

Half banana

Captain Schmideo, these celebs are not worth it, give me a bunch of lepers anyday.

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

Half banana

cancel- wrong post

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Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse Its Completely Clear

by thedepressedsoul in

if youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.

one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.

on december 1 st a new one just popped up.

Half banana

Yes Fink, they are still very rich but hungrier than ever. Also overly optimistic not recognising that they are now no longer as popular as they once were.

Apart from having been badly burned in an investment crash a while back, it seems from the UK accounts at least, that they manage money quite prudently and make a very good amount of interest from their current investments, at something like 5%.

There is a general idea that the poor foot soldiers in the theocratic army would shun the very notion of playing the stock market on spiritual grounds...even if they had the money. Not so the swanky GB whose money handlers meet annually in the UK with the biggest and best in the financial world with their vast income and be courted by the best brokers in the business.

But of course the GB are self appointed demi-gods now and they do what they want.